Sometimes, in old houses or due to a construction error, you might across a toilet with an odd rough-in size like 16 inches. But toilets today come only in 10, 12 and 14 inch rough-in sizes. So what do you do for a 16-inch rough-in? I have helped many people solve issues with odd rough-in sizes like this. So, in this post I’d like to share with you five solutions I have come across that have worked for others who need a 16-inch rough-in toilet.
Here are the solutions for 16 inch rough in toilet replacement.
- Relocate rough-in to 12 inches
- Install TOTO Vespin II toilet with 14″ Unifit Adapter (Shortest 14″ toilet & max space saving)
- Install a normal 14-Inch Rough-in Toilet
- Build a short 3-foot Wall behind Toilet
- Install a Over-The-Toilet Storage Cabinet
Lets have a look at these solutions in detail below.
Note: I have add more details for solution two than others because that is the solution most people use for 16″ rough-in problems. Also these solutions will work equally well for any rough-in over 14 inches (e.g. 15″ rough-in, 17″ rough-in etc.)
1) Relocate rough-in to 12 inches (Best solution if possible)
If you have reasonable access to the toilet plumbing this is a good time to fix your rough-in to a standard size like 12 or 14 inches. If you can make your rough-in to 12 inches, you’ll have a much easier time of finding a great 12″ toilet in styles you like, at a prices you like. And if your bathroom is small, you’ll get more legroom this way than installing the shortest 14″ rough-in toilet on a 16″ rough-in. And if it a small bathroom (like many old house baths are) you can install a smaller toilet and save even more space.
But this may not always be practical or easy. There was probably a reason the toilet flange was set to 16″. Likely there is a floor joist that prevented the flange from being set at a closer distance. If there’s a floor joist or you’ve got a concrete floor this solution can become very difficult and expensive to make now.
2) Install TOTO Vespin II Toilet with 14″ Unifit Adapter
If relocating the rough-in proves to be unreasonably difficult, your second best option is to install a 14-inch rough-in toilet. Out of the many models of 14″ rough-in toilets, the best choice for a 16″ rough-in I have found so far is the Toto Vespin II toilet (Amazon.com link) with 14-inch Toto UniFit Trapway Adapter (Amazon link).
Reason number one I say this is the best choice is because it’s the shortest 14″ rough-in toilet you can buy in the market today. It measures only 28.5 inches long and when installed on a 14″ rough-in with the 14″ UniFit Trapway adapter is about 29 inches from bowl front to wall. When installed on a 16-inch rough-in it measures 31 inches from the front of the bowl to the wall. It take no more space than a normal 12″ rough-in toilet installed on a 12″ rough-in would take.
Reason number two: Most other 14″ rough-in toilets from American Standard, Kohler etc. are more than 30 inches long. So when you install them on a 16″ rough-in they measure over 32 inches or more from bowl front to wall. So Vespin II gives you more legroom and space saving in front of the toilet than any other 14″ rough-in model.
Reason number three: When installed on a 16″ rough-in, Vespin II has one of the smallest gaps between the tank and the wall. Its gap is normally about 2 3/4 inches between tank and wall. Other 14″ toilets have a similar and larger tank-wall gap when install on 16″.
If the flange drain hole is large you maybe able to pull the toilet even more towards the wall and reduce the gap and length of the Vespin II even more. (Click here to see a photo of a Vespin II installed on a 16-inch rough-in. In this photo, because the flange hole was large, the plumber was able to reduce the tank-wall gap to just 1 1/4″!)
Even if the gap is 2 3/4″, it isn’t a great deal more than many toilets with standard rough-ins have. The gap has its benefits too. It will prevent mold growing on the wall and tank sweating and dripping issues. It also makes it easy to keep the whole toilet clean and nice.
This is why if you do a Google search for, “16 inch rough in toilet” you’ll find so many comments and recommendations on forums and websites by users and professional plumbers saying, Vespin II with 14″ Unifit Adapter is the best solution they have used for 16-inch rough-in settings. There are also several replies and reviews on Amazon (like here and here) by people who had used this for longer rough-ins than 14 inches, like 15-inch rough-in and say it was especially great for moving the toilet back against the wall.
Also keep in mind that most other 14″ rough-in toilets are really 12″ rough-in models with a thicker tank to hide the gap between tank and wall. They often use the same bowl that projects forward from the toilet flange. The only toilet models that actually adjusts the position of the whole toilet is a Toto that utilizes the UniFit adapter.
Note: When you buy a TOTO Vespin II toilet it comes default with a 12-inch Unifit Adapter. To make it a 14″ toilet you have to order the 14″ Unifit Adapter in addition to the toilet. The Vespin II is one of the few, special Toto models that accommodates the Unifit Adapter system. The Unifit Adapter is an interchangeable part that replaces the lower half of the trapway, adapting the toilet to either a 10″, 12″, or 14″ rough-ins.
If you check other 14 inch toilets you will see Toto Vespin is shorter then other round bowls, and much shorter than the other elongated bowl toilet. With Toto you pay more, but you get a better toilet, and more usable space in the bathroom.
3) Install a normal 14-Inch Rough-in Toilet
The next option for 16″ offset toilet is to install a normal 14-inch rough-in toilet. 14-inch toilets are a good choice for 16 rough-ins because they minimize the projection of the toilet into the room and minimize the space behind it. Here are some of the popular 14″ rough-in toilet models in the market today.
There are two American Standard Cadet 3 models for 14″ roughin. One is the compact Cadet 3 Round Bowl toilet which is 30-1/4″ long. The other is the14″ rough Cadet 3 toilet with “elongated bowl” which measures 32-1/4″ in length. These two are the best American Standard 16 inch rough in options available for you.
Kohler also has several models of 14″ rough-in toilets. One is the Kohler Wellworth K-3947-0 14-inch rough-in toilet. The Kohler Highline Comfort Height 1.28 GPF Toilet K-3949-0 is another 14-inch Rough-In toilet from them.
But keep in mind most 14 inch rough-in models are designed to fit rough-ins shorter than 14 inches, like 13.5 or even 13 inch rough-ins. So you might end up with a gap well over 2 inches if you install a 14 inch without checking how much gap it will leave.
4) Build A Short 3 Foot Wall Behind Toilet
This is a ingenious and cheaper solution. I heard this from someone who encountered a 16″ rough-in when they were replacing an old toilet. Instead of trying to finding larger rough-in toilet, this guy put in a normal 12-inch rough-in toilet. Then he built a small, 3-inch thick and 3 feet tall wall behind the toilet that filled in the 4-inch gap between the tank and the wall. He aligned the wall top with toilet tank top and it was beautiful and harmonic. The wall top can even be used as ledge shelf. This person I heard it from finished it with a oak board to match the rest of his room decor.
5) Install a Over-The-Toilet Storage Cabinet
One of the easiest solution for your 16″ rough-in issue is to install or place cabinet/rack above and behind the toilet. That way you can even install a 12-inch rough in toilet and use the unexpected space you get for something useful. There are even many ready-made over-the-toilet cabinets and racks for sale online. (see Amazon best seller over-toilet-cabinets.)
These over-the-toilet storage cabinets and racks are built to be placed around normal size rough-in toilets. In 16″ rough-in toilets they are ideal to hide the extra gap between the tank and the wall.
Over-toilet storage solutions are becoming very popular due to their convenience and space saving ability in small bathrooms. They range from very cheap racks to over-toilet-shelves and beautiful elaborate cabinets.
More Options for 16-inch Rough-in Toilet Issue
* Fill Tank-Wall Gap with Filler – A work around for filling in the gap caused by shorter rough-in toilets on 16″ rough-ins, is to put porcelain filler between the toilet tank and the wall.
* Get a separate tank and bowl toilet – Another solution for 16-inch rough-in is the historic High Tank Toilet perspective. In olden days the toilet tank was installed on the wall, separate from the bowl. They were connected only through a half-bend flush valve that extended from the tank on the wall to the toilet bowl. A version of these historic toilets are now available as specialty toilets called Pacific Style Toilet.
If 16″ rough-in toilet replacement causes space issues
If you already had a 16 rough in toilet, I think you may not lack space by the new toilet you put in. But in case if you lack space by the new toilet you installed, jutting out more than the old one, consider changing the swinging door to a pocket door. This will greatly increase the usable floor space in a small bathroom.
Benefit of Gap Between Toilet Tank and Wall
Many 12″ & 14″ rough-in toilets are designed so that they leave a gap between the tank back and wall when installed on a rough-in of exactly 12 or 14 inches. Toilet manufacturers have designed this gap because they know many rough-ins will not be exactly 12 or 14 inches due to construction errors and other reasons.
But there are benefits from having a gap between the tank and wall. The main one is for easy cleaning and preventing mold growth on the wall behind the tank. It also helps avoid tank dripping and sweating due to water condensation issues.
History of 16-Inch Toilets
According to an old master plumber from Arizona, there were some 16-inch and even 18-inch rough-in toilet models made in the 1930s and 1940s. This was before the rough-in standardization that came later on. These uncommon rough-in sizes have not been made since then.
Conclusion of 16 Offset Toilet Solutions
You are fortunate you got a 16 inch rough-in. Even though you won’t find a exact fitting toilet, any toilet will fit on what you have. Your easiest option is to install a 14 inch rough-in toilet. But best option in long term would be to relocate the rough-in to 12 inch (if its not too costly or difficult). The short wall solution is also a good option. The shelf over toilet will solve this issue and give you more storage space.
So you have a lot of options to choose from. How are you going to solve your 16-inch rough-in issue? Feel free to share what you are going to do and any other thoughts, experience and concerns in the comments below.