Sometimes when you are replacing old toilets you may come across a 8-inch rough-in toilet or a 9-inch rough-in toilet. In such a situation how do you replace a 8-inch or 9-inch rough-in toilet as there are no toilets for sale today with 8-inch or 9-inch rough-in sizes?
The standard rough-in size today is 12-inch. So most toilets manufactured today are 12-inch rough-in toilets with a few models of 10-inch rough toilets and 14-inch rough-in toilets to cater to 10 or 14 inch situations which are still rare. If you have a toilet with 8 or 9-inch rough-in you have come across a very unfortunate and very very rare situation in the plumbing world. However don’t despair.
Below are four solutions for your 8-inch rough-in toilets or 9-inch rough in toilet situation.
- Use a Offset Toilet Flange
- Claims of 10″ Toto Drake CST744EF toilet fitting 9″ Rough-in
- Wall Renovation
- Install A Wall-Mounted Toilet
1) Use a Offset Toilet Flange
One option for your unusual rough-in size situation would be to replace your existing toilet flange drain outlet at the floor with a 1 or 2 inch offset toilet flange like shown in this photo.
“Toilet Flange” is the drain outlet connection accessory on the floor into which the toilet is bolted to. You will currently have a conventional toilet flange shaft that protrudes straight down from the floor surface to connect to the main toilet/sewer drain pipe. What you need to do is, buy a “Offset Toilet Flange” with a one or two inch offsetting ability.
The toilet offset flange will allow you to ‘offset’ or move the center further from the wall by one or two inches as required. That way you can increase your toilet’s rough-in size from 8/9 inches to 10-inches. This will allow you to buy and install a good 10 inch rough in toilet like the 10-inch Toto Drake toilet.
This is the most common solution adapted by people like you who have faced a situation with a 8 or 9-inch toilet rough-in. Depending on the situation its also probably the quickest and easiest. Note, to replace your existing flange with the offset flange you will probably have to chisel out your bathroom floor.
2) Claims of 10″ Toto Drake CST744EF Toilet Fitting 9″ Rough-in
The 10-inch TOTO Drake CST744EF.10 toilet sold on Amazon has been used by many people to fit shorter toilet rough in less than 10 inches, like 9, 9.25, 9.5 and 9.75 inch rough-ins. This is because normally when you install this model on a 10″ rough-in, it leaves a gap of 1.1 inch clearance in the back between the tank and the wall.
I found several reviews and comments on Amazon and other online forums made by people who had successfully installed this model for their 9 inch rough in. This maybe because the horn of this 10″ Toto is 2-5/8″ and they might have shifted the bolts away from the wall by 1/4″ off center and got their 9″ rough-in.
I found two people on the 10″ TOTO Amazon sales page, saying it fit their 9-inch rough in outlet. Here is the link to one of those customer reviews, where a Amazon “Verified Purchaser” says this Toto toilet fit their 9″ rough in. And here’s the second link to another purchaser also saying it really worked for them with only 9 inches to the wall.
Update: I found this diagram of the 10 inch Toto Drake toilet on its specification sheet. Notice the 1 1/8 inch gap between the back of the toilet and the wall where I have marked it with a pink arrow.
Here’s another comment confirming the 10″ Toto toilet fits 9″ rough in, this time from a forum thread on the terrylove.com website.
We had the same problem described above (only 9 inches to wall) and took a gamble on the 10″ Toto toilet described above and IT FIT! I wanted to post that it fit because we were so relieved and because no one ever followed up on this thread to say if it really fit. We only had 9 inches and the whole toilet fit great!
It’s fortunate one of the best 10-inch toilets is adaptable to an awkward situation like on a 9″ rough-in, because like I explain in my 10 inch toilet comparison, Toto toilets are probably the best toilets in the market for a number of reasons, though its price is also bit higher than normal. I also checked whether any other 10″ inch models fit 9″ rough in’s but couldn’t find any claims about for them.
With so many sources claiming this 10″ Toto Drake fits 9″ rough ins, we can safely say its the best and easiest solution if you find yourself with a 9″ roughin situation. However, in case you buy the Toto Drake CST744EF.10 and it doesn’t work for you, you can still use it as the 10-inch toilet you will need by following the solution 1 or 3 explained here. So why not give it a try?
If this solution works for you, it will probably save you the trouble of breaking up the floor and installing a offset toilet flange as suggested in solution one.
In case you need a 9.25 inch rough in toilet or 9.5 rough in toilet, I found even more comments in forums and websites where people have said this Toto Drake was perfect for their 9 1/4 inch rough in and 9 1/2 inch rough in situations.
Update: My website stats shows several people who read this article, have gone to Amazon and bought the 10″ Toto Drake. If you also buy it and try out this solution, please leave a comment below sharing your experience. Your comment will help many hundreds of people desperate for a solution to their 9 inch rough in problem. Thank you 🙂
3) Wall Renovation
Your second option is to renovate your wall to increase the rough-in distance between the toilet’s drain and the wall surface. Depending on whether you have a 8 or 9 inch toilet rough-in you will need to move the wall back one or two inches to accommodate a 10-inch rough-in toilet. Note, only types of walls that you can move without professional assistance are non-load-bearing walls (also called partition walls). However for this option we highly recommend you consult a professional for assistance.
4) Install A Wall-Mounted Toilet
In case you can’t dig up the floor to shift your outlet flange or you want to avoid using your existing toilet flange altogehter you might consider installing a wall mounted toilet or a rear outlet toilet and diverting the outlet drain through the wall.
Wall mounted toilets is becoming a very popular option in cities and new apartment buildings as they are space saving, easy to clean and drain through their rear side. However, solution requires to plumb a new toilet waste line through your wall and installing a wall mounted toilet carrier to affix the toilet on the wall. Also depending on the toilet model this solution will probably be very costly as you will have to get professional help as well.
The rear outlet toilets are a cheaper alternative to wall mounted toilets. They are exactly like a normal standard floor mounted toilet except the drain outlet is in the rear.